9:35 pm (this is my life now )
Nice job with your characters last time! I’m sorry I’m posting so late, but some really bad stuff has been happening lately (involving my close piano teacher getting hospitalized and the death of my mom’s close friend) that may make me need to step down. I hope it doesn’t come to that but please understand if it does!
I noticed a common error in some of your bios last time though. Most of them were all a type: something stereotyped and honestly kinda boring because I’ve seen them so many times before (jkjkjk, but you get my point).
So today we’re going to be going over some common character types that were in almost everyone’s bio. Here are three basic ones that
The Spitfire: usually meant to be the female protagonist. Not a Mary Sue, but she’s always super sassy, snarky, and is the underdog that finds a way to triumph all the time. There were a lot of these. Thank you, next.
The Gentle: basically in the name. In reality, people aren’t as nice and innocent as we make them out to be. Especially kids- I mean, I’m around Prim’s age (from the HG) but nowhere near as sweet. Unrealistic.
The Psychopath: Basically the opposite of the gentle (obviously). There’s never a good reason for why the psychopath is so psychopathic, and if there is it’s highly unoriginal.
For today, I want you to identify a character in the books that fell under one of these categories. (The HG is heaven for these, so because of that it’s off-limits.) Then leave some evidence supporting as to why this character is eg “The Spitfire”. See you soon.
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Oof welp I kinda wanna do the Bio thing tho I can’t really now😅. So uh I gusse ummm Anng from ATLA bc I relate to him in a lot of ways.
Are you looking at the stereotypes? lol, you’re not supposed to say “Who you relate to” you’re supposed to say a character that fits one of the stereotypes. read them next time ahaha, bc you’ve been having a lot of trouble understanding what to do lately 😂😂😂
Ohhhhhhhhhh! Thanks, LOL Well Angg is kinda like the gental one bc he’s been gone for 100 years and is mostly clueless about the world besides the past so yeah.
I’m suffering you’ve said Aang twice and it was spelled wrong both times—
The Spitfire: Celaena Sardothien from Throne of Glass
Do I really have to say more? Celaena is super sassy and snarky and is always the underdog, and no matter what, she always ends up winning. ALWAYS (well in the first book at least, which is as far as I’ve gotten in the series). A ton of guards protecting a highly-protected prison? Gone. A totally ruthless killer who’s tougher, bigger, and even d.rugged her in battle? Gone. With her, you always know who’s going to win, no matter what happens. Oh and this wasn’t in the description, but like she gets ALL THE GUYS. ALL OF THEM. It just infuriates me, she’s like, “aah i’m so ugIy no one loves me cri” when she knows there’s all of these guys who are falling in love with her (hence the dreaded love triangle).
Thank you for listening to my rant.
Quick question: Whch one was Charlotte? (Just out of curiosity)
The Spitfire: Mare Barrow form Red Queen (I’ve only read to first one)
Mare (A is always head strong and stubborn and (B she is quite sarcastic, and snarky at times.
The Gentle: Diana Berry from Anne of Green Gables. Diana is know for being a gentle, mothers girl who is always wearing clean dresses and NEVER speaks out of turn.
The psychopath: Fudge from the tales of a 4th grade nothing
The kid ate a turtle for crying out loud!!
*stares blankly at my bio, which is very much based on me*
wow am I a stereotype?
Uhhh lemme think of someone LOL
The Spitfire: Beatrice/Tris Prior from the Divergent Trilogy
Why: Tris was always the underdog. Small, skinny, and Abnegation, she was constantly in a position of weakness against her opponents. Take her fight with Molly as an example. Molly was larger and stronger than Tris, but somehow, miraculously, Tris broke Molly’s nose and even kicked her when she was down. The Divergent fandom has decided that the flame on the front of the first book represented Tris. I don’t know what to tell you. Tris is definitely NOT a Mary Sue (entirety of Insurgent, anyone?) but she falls pretty squarely into the category Spitfire. I rest my case, Your Honor.
Also, Tia, of course it’s fine if you have to step down or change the schedule or anything. We understand, and wish you the best.
The Spitfire: Tierney from The Grace Year
She literally was the typical rebel who wanted to bring about change in her sexist society that no one else was brave enough to do. She saw herself as better than the other girls because she didn’t want a husband and would rather be put to work in the fields. She was constantly rude and snarky with the other girls who didn’t agree with her, and though she thought of Kiersten as this horrible monster who controlled the girls completely, she did so even without her powers, and when she lost that control decided not to even try to work with Kiersten and put aside her grudge. When she got exiled from the group, she ran away and just happened to have enough food for the year, and it grew wonderfully and she had plenty to eat. Then, she got kidnapped by a poacher who would and should have killed her, but he didn’t, and instead hid her and fell in love with her. I’d go on, but there’s a whole lot more and the book isn’t that fresh in my mind either.
And Tia, I hope you’re doing alright, and I’m so sorry about your piano teacher and your mom’s friend. I would definitely understand if you had to step down. If you need to talk about anything, you can always come to me!
But you’re basing that off of yourself, meaning that your judgement of ‘The Gentle’ is extremely flawed. Some people are sweet and innocent; not everyone is you.
And in genres such as fantasy, characters do not need to be realistic in the manner that you speak of.
Coco, who put you in charge? Read my description again, and actually observe it yourself. i think i’m allowed to say what I want, especially because the people that are the gentle don’t have a population nearly as large as books make them. I’d like to see you do better. to be honest, it’s a little tiring when you think of yourself as superior to everyone else. you marked yourself as a beginning writer on the kahoot: maybe if you thought you were so good you can take over this. even in fantasy books, it’s not good writing if the character isn’t relatable. go boss someone else around, bc i’m not taking it.
I’m stopping this here.
Coco – I see where @/anadil777 got upset with your comment. It could’ve been worded a bit nicer.
Anadil777 – Again, you also could’ve been nicer. Just because you are in charge of this club doesn’t mean you have the right to be rude to other members. Her opinion should be respected.
I generally see both of your sides, but please, just be kind to one another, okay? If you really want to make this site a better community, treat everyone with respect and kindness.
1) You aren’t stopping anything because I never replied.
2) No thank you, I am not going to sugarcoat my words so that I don’t seem rude. It’s the cold hard truth of my opinion.
I really don’t think this is worth arguing, ok? You said things a bit ruder than needed, and so did she. If this club is just going to be arguing about characters, than I’m out, because I don’t know about everyone else, but I joined this to have fun. And Anadil777 is not wrong. You can boss people around and act superior. So I think that you two need to calm down before things get worse. So theoretically, I am trying to prevent something u.g.l.y.
Gee, thanks, never knew you found me so bossy and irritating, especially when I was just giving feedback. But seeing as you just want a dainty little writing club, I’ll leave, because I am oh so clearly an obstacle in the path to perfection.
Ok y’all. I think everyone needs to take a step back and think about what we’re doing. Coco, I don’t think you need to leave the writing club over a simple comment. And Tia, I don’t think you need to get as mad as you did because of it. I’m not going to go further into it than that, but I really do think that we should just all calm down and just think about what we’re doing and what we’re saying to each other. This is way too much drama over a little comment that may have been misunderstood.
Thank you, Lauren. This is just a club, and there is no reason to get upset over it. I apologize for anything I said they may have been taken in a way that could’ve hurt someone.
1) I never said or implied that ****.
2) Oh, so you know every single kind person who exists?
3) I don’t, but well done for assuming and stating untruths when you do not know me.
4) Gee, thought that was private information? And I’m not a beginner, I’ve been writing for years.
5) And since when did you dictate what is and is not good for writing?
6) Aw honey I’m not bossing you around, simply pointing out something I disagree with. You’re not good with criticism, are you?
7) I never said I was good, thanks for dramatising the situation though! Good night.
Guys. Please don’t do this. To be honest, I can see where both of you are coming from. Coco, I’m sorry that your opinion was a bit blown out of proportion, but the way you phrased it may have seemed a bit rude as well. I know that communicating feelings and emotions is a bit hard online and your comment may just have been misunderstood. However, I don’t think you have to keep firing back at tia. She did overreact, and I’ll acknowledge that, but she is going through a lot of stuff at the moment. I think we should just… Discontinue this comment thread. No more replies. No more arguing.
Well, I don’t like adding fuel to the fire but I mostly agree with Coco. *Insert pronoun* just pointed something out and isn’t trying to take lead but is just pointing out something that *insert pronoun* found flawed. And true the books make them a bigger population than compared to real-life but some people can relate to ‘The Gentle’ and still be slightly sarcastic or something similar to that. And people could also have sheltered lives and are only acting in the way they know or they resort to it in some way for coping. So I guess that’s where Coco saw some flaws though I’m not Coco so I can’t tell. This is just an analyzation based on what I saw and read. Though I don’t think that Coco was trying to be bossy *insert pronoun* as I stated above was just pointing something that *insert pronoun* found flawed. And in my opinion, a good character can be either a character you relate to where you feel like your in the story or one you can’t relate to where you have suspense.
Guys, it’s not if you agree with once person or another, its the fact that this is becoming something bigger than it ever should be. Lauren is correct, Tia just mentioned that she had some pretty terrible things happening in her life, and some people get bit more… idk if this is the right word, but touchy when they are going through something. Both Tia and Coco did word things in a way that were indeed rude, but get over it, okay? You didn’t agree! Fine! Say it nicely or don’t say it at all! So please, be kind, because you really have no idea what someone is really going through. Don’t say something you are going to regret. Or better yet, don’t reply at all!
The spitfire: *thinks of all the books I’ve read* Glory form Wings of fire. While she is a round character she is sarcastic and snarky and never dies. *spoilers* Glory becomes a queen because she won a competition and then she was kidnapped but got free. And then she saved her whole giant kingdom from a volcano kingdom then became the queen of another tribe. And she survives peacefully and hasn’t lost something yet. So yeah that was bad but I couldn’t find another character
I know me too! She is one of my favs! But I couldnt think of anyone else to use becuase all of them were boys *Looks pointedly at Harry Potter*
Yes he is
Harry: Aw we got last place in the House cup
Dumbledore: Guess what? You get to win it every year even though you broke all the rules and were just being yourself!
Like whaaaaa Harry=The Spitfire
Probably why I hate Gryffindor because they get away with everything
Ikr! Like why the **** does dumbledore somehow think that harry and his friends deserve the cup when they break about 5000 rules in the process of saving the world and other houses actually try to abide by the rules and FAIRLY win the cup! I’m positive that Gryffindor did not deserve the cup for most of the times, if not all, that they won. Plus, harry manages to survive what should have been death multiple times, not to mention that the last time he most definitely should have been dead! And he somehow manages to ALWAYS be praised for this when he does stupid, unreasonable things that he was advised AGAINST and always is the hero and savior of the day. And then there’s his hero complex, which I won’t even begin to talk about.
I KNOW!! THE CHARACTER HARRy POTTER DESERVED TO DIE!! HE THINKS JUST BECAUSE HE’S ThE CHOSEN onE THAT hE CAN DO WHATEVER!
HE DID!!!! THANK YOU FOR AGREEING!!! And Ron… VERY UNHELPFUL!! He should’ve died too. But Hermione… SHE DID ALL THE REAL WORK I MEAN REALLY
Tbh Ron was just the idiot teenage boy and honestly a very accurate representation of the idiot teenage boy. Hermione, on the other hand IS. THE. ENTIRE. REASON. ANYONE. IS. EVEN. ALIVE. Istg if hermione was the main character she would have murdered Voldemort in her first year and had time for tea afterwards. I found this one meme that perfectly sums them up. It was like…
Harry potter squad at 100%:
*Picture of the golden trio*
Harry potter squad at 99%:
The Spitfire: Maybe Percy Jackson or Sophie Foster? Both were underdogs before they became “more popular”.
The Gentle: Luna Lovegood probably.
The Psychotic: Not sure ’bout this one.
And just a question… was my bio one of these stereotypes? Just curious.
Okay I agree fully HARRY POTTER DESERVES TO DIE and the Broadway show didnt help….I mean then he and Myrle could date….and you know it wont be the end of the world..
Aw darn, I wish I could use Hunger Games. Okay, I choose . . . ugh I can’t remember her name. The main character from Divergent, as “The Spitfire.”
Oh. Um. I swear I wasn’t trying to steal from you, I didn’t even read all of the comments.
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