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Cool! Why is this site so tame all of a sudden?
*cough, cough, cough ((food fight), cough, cough, (?), cough
*cough, cough, (on open chat?), cough
Why not? I missed mischief! When was the last time you tried to eat someone?
Don’t worry I don’t even know them!
Tag me! Please do it sometime after 5 I’m not available till then (school)
I’m polishing my sword in antipation…..
No, I’m writing it right now so it’s easier to post in the morning. I want you to be the only one prepared because you took a break from the site so it would be funny if you were the only one who knew what was happening. And, I am horrible at spelling. So do you or not?
Yeah, but I never check my email and I will be fighting against you so I’d rather you not send me the doc if that’s OK on your end. Don’t worry, I’m still bringing my a-game!
I love these books so much I got both my father and sister (2 out of 12 isn’t too bad!) to read the series. But I did have a question.
Was Sophie meant to be in the school for evil? Or did they actually get switched? Or are you just saving the answer for book five? Or six?
I also wanted to know one more thing (sorry) on the last…[Read more]
It never ACTUALLY says in the books! I still think it was all part of the school masters plan to get Sophie to kiss him!
‘And then Tedros came along…….’
Actually I believe, correct me if I’m wrong, that the exact opposite is explained in the book! Two Nevers who are in love end up having bad children! That’s how REAL villains are made! So really for it to work Sophie had to have been good!
And Rafal said something like, only the heart of pure evil could be his bride, which is why he had been waiting for someone to have a heart of pure evil. Sophie and Agatha were born from magic, each side a different part of one soul. That is why Sophie is evil and Agatha is good. And no, Aggie is not evil. Sophie is and always will be. Once she…[Read more]
But the school master live(d/s) in the fairy tale world! So it’s really not different. Plus Sophie and Agatha became part of the fairytale world when they were kidnapped!
Yes, Sophie is 100% pure evil, her personality and actions definitely prove.
I also hate her.
She’s selfish! Yes! Everyone has a flaw! That’s what makes us human! Who did Sophie kill? The doom room monster that’s been torturing people for millenniums!? What a loss! Sophie is inspirational!
There is nothing inspirational about someone who hurts people, there is nothing inspirational about someone who hurts a friend multiple times, there is nothing inspirational about someone with multiple flaws that affects hurts and kills people.
You can like someone as evil and selfish like her, that’s your choice.
But whether you believe or not,…[Read more]
I don’t hate her, but I definitely think she deserved to go to the school for evil.
She is not good. How many times do we have to tell you. She is not good. She is evil.
@Avivakeller, Sophie is Evil. She may have shown genuine love for her friends and her family esp. Agatha in previous books, but that doesn’t make her an inspirational person // a good person.
She’s not the kind of character you’d definitely want as a role model. Her occasional acts of kindness aren’t enough to balance out the fact that she’s…[Read more]
But if Sophie’s evil than what’s Agatha? Because she is 10 times worse than Sophie!
Agatha is good, and she is not worse than Sophie. Sophie has killed people out of cold blood while Agatha has not. Agatha had saved Sophie time and time again, Agatha is the other side of the coin, the good side. Just because you don’t like Agatha doesn’t mean shes evil.
Oh and all the people who she’s tried but failed to kill? It was Agatha who stopped her. Now tell me? How is Agatha evil?
(I have no patients to read any book more than once, even my favorite)
Sophie tries to do the right thing! Agatha doesn’t try! She just fails at doing the wrong thing! Sophie inspires us by showing that even if all of her actions come out wrong she still trys to do good! Yes, she killed the beast! Isn’t that what the good hero always does!? Kill…[Read more]
If you have no patience to read any book more than once, you shouldn’t be here. You are not qualified to give your opinion if you haven’t read the books recently or more than once in a recent time period. You obviously are lacking in information about who each character is, and you have not analyzed them to see who they really are. I’m sorry if…[Read more]
*Being here* is referring to in this debate. I think you are an awesome person Aviva, and love that you are here on this site and in the community.
“Agatha doesn’t try!”
In the first book, when Agatha was able to escape from the School for Good and Evil, her first thought is for Sophie — Sophie who at this point had Hester push her into the sewer and insult, manipulate, and control her at every turn. She doesn’t even think about herself, so strong is her love for Sophie despite all that…[Read more]
It never says in any book ‘Sophie is evil, Agatha is good’
I don’t hate Agatha
My sister’s reading the books now so I’m sort of rereading them with her
I have freedom of speech so yes, I’m allowed to voice my opinion anywhere I want!
I’m sorry if you don’t share my opinion or theory but you don’t have to be so rude about it!
I’m not being rude about it HAHAHA. I as well am allowed to have my own opinions, especially if I can defend them.
You’re opinion is very illogical, Agatha doesn’t try?
You didn’t read the book well at all, even Soman chainani himself told that she’s the one that tries the most, she is a great person, and for you to call her ten times worse than Agatha is not only wrong and silly, it is also completely bias and false of you.
“Actions speak louder than words….” depends how loud you scream!
Ah! The fairies and wolves, sorry!
In the first book Agatha is being dragged to Dovey’s office she tells a wolf “I don’t want to die” the wolf says back “I didn’t either” then in book 3 Hester is fine killing her mother zombie because she’s not really her mother, she’s dead! This…[Read more]
Well, fire’s a really good metaphor for destruction and construction. Bad and good. So forth and whatnot. You get it!
I think everybody has a soul! Also it’s dead! Said so himself!
Are you jewigh? I know it’s a bit personal but….?
No, I’m not. My mom’s side of the family is Christian, my dad’s Buddhist.
I myself don’t believe in anything religious, unless Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny count. I believe in things I read in books and see in movies and cartoons.
So, yeah…I’m not Jewish.
We need to talk! Matty just lost everyone! He has no time to be crushing on Claire!
Tatumb!! How’d it go? How are you!?
Am I the only one who finds it weird that Agatha and Sophie find out they’re sisters in the third book but nothing changes at all in the fourth? They don’t even acknowledge that they’re related once!
Yeah I seriously wondered about this…also Sophie is older (by like a few seconds lol) so I figured she might try to hold that over Aggie lol
i thought that soman would’ve at least put a scene where they hint it to the other peoples but he didn’t. i need more sister hood! by the way, don’t you guys think that when Agatha kissed Sophie it was like in star wars when luke kissed leigha and found out the were twins? just like Sophie and Agatha?
I have a theory,what if Tedos goes back in time and meets his father again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Join the ‘Nobody Likes Nicola’ club!
Meetings every Tuesday and Thursday.
Just go to; wwww.doesn’treallyexist.com! And sign up free!
(Website may be nonexistent)
Oh my gosh, why would you bother to create a club about that Nicola’s annoying?! And hold a meeting about discussing many ways Nicola contributed in the 4th book! I think she’s alright, although her character is useless in the books. At least she has brains.
That’s the whole problem. Nicola is literally the smart reader who saved the day cause she’s a smart lil reader who just wants to go home. She is a completely pointless cliche who has no place in SGE
The only part of her brain that works is the part that says; “hey, Mr. Obvious!”
Well, I think she is alright. Either way, she’s a girl who’s wanting to go back home, just because her friend signed Nicola’s application.
No, she thinks it’s her brothers, but in the handbook, where there’s the Reader’s application, it says that her friend ‘Hunter’ applied her.
Look, Nicola could be vain, but she is kind, and saved everyone’s lives. Without her, they would all be end. Then the whole story could be over. Like this: “then, the wave crashed over the ship, as Sophie and the others cascaded towards the water, never to be seen again. The End.” I believe that this would be one of those rewritten by villa…[Read more]
Sophie is great! She is Aggie’s best friend, and although she can also be VERY vain and selfish, she cares about her friend deep inside.
HOW DARE YOU SOPHIE IS ONE OF THE BEST FREAKING CHARACTERS IN THE WHOLE FREAKING SERIES EVEN SOMANHAS SAID THAT SHES ONE OF HIS FAVES HOW FUDGING DARE YOU
Regardless, she is more of a brat than Nicola. Where is the reasoning here?
So let’s get this clear: you’re talking about Sophie, the Sophie who ransomed the world just to steal her best friend’s True Love, the Sophie who thought her best friend was evil, who literally tried to leave her best friend to the wolves, the Sophie who tried to bewitch a prince into loving her, who hid when the same prince was in danger, who…[Read more]
Just swap those two characters around and then we have the perfect solution of Sophie’s and Nicola’s character.
I love all the characters, and everyone has a perfect flaw in their personality. Everyone does! So, I am just saying that it would be boring if everyone was nice and kind. The villains make the stories interesting. All h characters are important. Imagine the book without Agatha. The book wouldn’t even exist! And without Sophie… Agatha would n…[Read more]
Yes, but Nicola saved their lives. She just wants to go home, and she is very smart. I just don’t like how she thinks Hort should like her immediately. But, she is very nice at times too. She just probably wants to go home. Maybe… Agatha Tedros, and Sophie will all become professors at SGE, and Nicola would rule Camelot… anything can happen!
Well, Tedros and Agatha wa going to rule at that age! That may seem too young, but maybe… at their time, things were different. Maybe in the fairytale world, things were different. Old princess Disney movies were not as old as you think! Snow White was about thirteen or something when she started her fairytale, as well as Cinderella.
Because Beatrix was there since the beginning! You can’t just spring a new, self-centered character on us and expect us to accept she’s a terrible person and let her marry Hort because she saved good! It wasn’t even saving good! It was saving herself (it also happened to save the others) and yelled at the crew for being idiots! What type of Hort…[Read more]
Also in Beatrix’s defense, she’s one of the more interesting characters as she is adapts to each school.
In book one she was the perfect princess ever girl
In book two she was a smart independent young girl
And in boom three, she was trying her best and ended up getting ranked high at the school for New Evil.
Despite being a fairly annoying per…[Read more]
Look, she saved them when they were in the viper incident. For them! She also helped them understand things. No one is perfect!
I LOOOOVE NICOLA!! SHE IS VERY INTERESTING!! STOP SAYING SHE IS AN IDIOT!!
fine! But maybe keep your hatred down to a 10. It’s loud, and annoying.
I know it might sound rude… but, why do you hate her sooo much?
I don’t have a problem with Nicola. I have a problem with her character, the way she was represented and how she entered the story. It just seemed too forced and too stiff. What are the odds that this perfect, knowledgeable Hort fangirl and Reader just happens to be entered into the School for Good and Evil, enter the quest and show off what she l…[Read more]
I don’t think Nicola deserves Hort, but she could be a match. Hort knows nothing about her, and Nicola only liked him because of the storybooks, not his real self.
I agree with you so much it’s like Soman has this cast of intriguing layered characters and then just threw in Nicola as a one dimensional Mary Sue!
I think Hort’s just trying to make Sophie jealous! Or fell for Nicola or something! I think in book five the villain will hold her family captive or something unless she helps him, everyone will tell her it’s a trick, she’ll go with the villain anyhow and at one point capture them or something. They’ll win even without her help and she’ll go…[Read more]
Why in the hay would anyone ever feel sorry for that-……. girl?
BECAUSE HER BROTHERS THREW HER INTO THE EVILEST PLACE ON THE PLANET!! SHE HAD TO LEAVE IT BECAUSE SHE BELONGS ELSEWHERE AND SHE WANTED TO HELP HER PA!!
I dissagree with this subject. Nicola and Hort do love eachother! Hort says multiple times that: She understands him! She always fends for herself, unlike Sophie, Sophie has said that now she is done with boys. Soman even said that himself. Hort and Nicola have both been rejected and placed in uncomfortable positions in life, and Nicola also says…[Read more]
I agree with pinkeleora08.. Nicola is misunderstood. It wasn’t even her fault that she ended up in this position. It was her brothers. She wants to go home… But is you think about it, she is just like Agatha… because she hated the place at first, and Sophie loved Tedros, and Agatha and Tedros fell in love after sophie gave up, and then A…[Read more]
Also, you say you like Sophie, and that you hate Nicola because she is: the dumb reader who saves everyone because she reads??? SOPHIE DOES THAT AS WELL! Sophie is a reader who saves the world who as well wanted to go home! Nicola wants to go home, but so does all the other readers!
in case you guys have yet to realize
1. Sophie doesn’t want to go home
2. Nicola is not misunderstood at all
3. Not all readers want to go home
4. Sophie actually isn’t that dumb. Calling her dumb is basically like calling Soman dumb as she is sort of modeled after him
5. It’s super easy not feel sorry for Nicola! What horrible thing has happe…[Read more]
7. No offense but WHY bother commenting on this post just to try and defend Nicola???? I mean, the post is for the Nobody Likes Nicola Club. If you like Nicola, that’s nice or whatever but pleaseeeeee don’t try to force your opinion on other people. It’s called being pushy and rude. Please stop criticizing our ideas!
I never said everyone wants to go home! Most do!! And Sophie did for a while! SO DID AGATHA! A bunch of kids hated the schools- and I am not saying everyone! And no, when I hate Sophie- who the **** are you to say that Soman is Sophie? What even??? NICOLA IS MISUNDERSTOOD!! YOU ARE LITTERALLY CALLING HER STUPID RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW!! NICOLA…[Read more]
Also, I am not “forcing my oppinion on you” I am telling you my oppinion because I love her, and something is wrong with Soman’s readers. GOOD DAY SIR. (mad’m)
Thank you so much for forcing your opinions on us (again), calling us soulless, saying we’re “wrong” readers, using crude and offensive language towards us, and refusing to let us make comparisons that Soman himself has made! Two people are trying to discus their opinions about a character here while you are just criticizing us! We’ve already…[Read more]
Hey guys I just wanted to say I was sorry about my previous comments. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I just enjoyed the debate, my own thoughts even changing a bit.
I would never say that, it gives me nightmares.
Oh! I just noticed, but me and Avivakeller’s avatars look the same! Haha! Should I change mine?
Thank you @themaplebacondonut!
My friend think that my “yay”is cute. I don’t know why.. I like how these avatars look realistic.
Thank you! Why is everyone saying that? I am confused. 🙂
I like yours too. Now we are talking about this.. we’ve come long way! 😀 we should ….. talk about Kiko now! Wonder if she dies… I hope not!!
So….. did you like the way she was portrayed in the book 4 count down?
No…she looked the stereotypical Asian anime fan complete with glasses…
I think she looked more like how Millicent was portrayed!
Ok.. all this was… ridiculous. Nicola is a good character. She was annoying a little bit. and I don’t like her is cause i want Hophie. I was an original member of this. You don’t have to go call people souless because they have an opinion. Freedom of speech people! This was all crazy! Thank you for changing the subject though. Ok i’m done. And…[Read more]
Yeah, I think it is hard to find people with red hair these days. I mean, I do, a little, if it’s in the sunlight. Irish and scottish pride! It’s strange though, a mix of Asian with it? I love when we talk about different parts of us! Okay, that went off the subject. Do you think Millicent deserved better?
So sorry if it looked like I said a bad word- It was not even a bad word! Just B u t t!
How does that fit into that sentence..? But, it’s okay. We are talking about Kiko and Millicent.
Yes, and cute! She is kind of like a fluttershy, if you know what I mean.
OMLP YES I GET WHAT YOU MEAN AND SOPHIE OS SORTA LIKE RARITY AND AGATHA IS LIKE APPLEJACK OMSGE I USED TO WATCH THAT SHOW FREAKING RELIGIOUSLY
Yeah, my friends say I am a real version of fluttershy. But also, Clarissa Dovey I’d Celestia, and Luna is….. I don’t know.. reena could be Rainbowdash, or maybe Bellatrix could fit in there.
Hmmm definitely Celestia as dean Dovey…maybe Luna for Lady Lesso???
Yeah! I think that so far, Sophie is Rainbowdash, but she is always loyal to Agatha. I like that about them.
Hmm I’d say that I’m a Pinkie Pie because we both love making people laugh but have a tough time being serious 🙂
Somehow, there is a lot of times a dangerous animals that not everyone liked, never scratches me. But also maybe because I sound like fluttershy. The “yay”, the voice when she sings, and personality. Honestly, I think I’m too gullible. Trust me, if you walk up behind me and just tap my shoulder, I would scream. 😀
Also, I think Agatha is becom…[Read more]
Yeah! She is becoming one. …
Oh yeah! She locked herself up from others in the past, and now they are both.. princesses!
No, Hort is….. who’s that really cool wonderbolt who has an extremely embarrassing nickname?
She was a twilight when she had no friends, now she is a princess twilight. I think rarity is.. Sophie? She isn’t generous though. I think she is a Rainbowdash. She is loyal to those she cared about. What about Cadence?
😮 Star swirled the bearded is Merlin, and King Arther is the guy that turned evil because of Starswirled the bearded and his f…[Read more]
I really hope a crystal in time doesn’t mean they go back in time!
Maybe it’s a crystal that they need but Merlin tells them it was lost in time?
Or a cursed crystal they learn about and it got lost in time and calculations are done turns out it’s trapped here!
Or maybe the crystal part and the time part are two separate things……….
I’m I the only one who thinks Rhian is not evil!? Please someone agree with me!
He killed Chaddick. Destroyed Lady of the Lake’s life. Gave Tedros so much trust only to betray him. Tricked and lied to all of the kingdoms by convincing them that he “saved” them when he was the real reason for all there problems. Threatened to kill Sophie if she doesn’t listen to him and had a part in the deaths of Lancelot , Lady Gremali…[Read more]
Definetly Evil. He is guilty for murder, treason and abuse, considering he is forcing Sophie into a relationship. And technically, Rhian wasn’t taking what was his birthright. Legally, the crown does belong to Tedros, as Rhian is a ******* child. Also, the choice of who is the heir belongs to the King, and the books give us all the evidences that…[Read more]
Presses *I support this without question a dozen times* at the part where you theorized that Excalibur might consume Rhian from within if the sword even as so much thinks that there is something wrong with its wielder
Is he!? Is he REALLY!? Name me one thing he does that is ACTUALLY evil!
1. Sticking a sword up someone’s spine counts as abuse, deciet, willingness to muder others.
2. He murdered a lot of people 1st handedly or in league with people who murdered them.
3. He was in a school filled with the most evil kids in the woods.
4. He wants Tedros, Agatha, and quite possibly Sophie dead. He wants everyone dead if they question him.
I’m afraid to say it is true. Honey, you can love an evil character, it is okay to love the evil one! I mean, i loved sophie when she was 100% evil in the first and last book. so its fine! I think Rhian is evil because all the examples given by @THEGINGER are true!
Rhian doesnt really seem evil but he does appear to be the mastermind behind all the attacks and everything else. If he was good he wouldnt have gone that far to become king. He had evil intentions.
Sorry, but I think Rhian is considered to be Evil: because he was in Arbed House, best friends with Aric and Kei. Also, he had everyone fooled that he was on their side. He forced Sophie to be his bride sword-point and had Tedros to be executed. He was also raised in secret, and returned to claim his kingship, which no one expected.
He can be looking as though they were his idea and/ or fault but I think he’s being threatened!
First off if A PERSON takes joy in it they are evil. Second name me one thing, please, that you have actually read him do! That is evil! One thing!
Umm Rhian definitly qualifies as evil….
Remember when he threatened sophie with the sword?!!! I was really mad at him for that..lol