claraofnutcracker402

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    claraofnutcracker402 posted an update 3 months ago

    @SOPHIESWAY
    this is our little work box. We can set up ideas here, suggestions, and put together our work. I can make a google doc for this if it would be easier to work on, so feel free to let me know.

        claraofnutcracker402 replied 3 months ago

        A few fairytales I think we could use:
        -Snow White
        – Rumplestilskin
        – Hansel and gretle
        Anything you want to add?

          sophiesway replied 3 months ago

          I think we should do Hansel and Gretel, since there where many mistakes made.

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 3 months ago

          Okay great! Here a a few mistakes good and evil made, and we just have to explain why it was good or evil. (We can choose one or more, it doesn’t really matter.)
          Evil things good did:
          – their father abandoned them to die, even though he was good
          – the children killed the witch; she may be a witch, but she hadn’t attacked them yet, so they had no reason to defend.
          Good things evil did;
          – the witch let the kids into her house to eat when they were starving (even though it was to eat it them)
          – the witch listened to gretel, and kept them both alive for several weeks
          Any more?

        sophiesway replied 3 months ago

        Evil things-
        The step-mother commanded the father to leave his children to die.
        The children where greedy, wanting to eat the house.
        The witch wanted to eat Hansel, and making Gretel watch AND HELP cook her brother.
        (the children killed the witch because she was a threat, so they defended himself)
        Good things-
        Gretel saved her brother form the evil witch.
        They forgave there father.
        I’ll write something for us, I’m pretty good friends with the teacher so I know what she is looking for.

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 3 months ago

          Looking good so far! I though we were supposed to be doing evil things good did and good things evil did?

        sophiesway replied 3 months ago

        Your probably right, I speed read throught the whole thing.

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 3 months ago

          We could compile a list of both and then compare their differences, while putting emphasis (and short explanations) of how good did evil, and evil did good.

        sophiesway replied 3 months ago

        No worries! Ill do just that!

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 3 months ago

          Do you want to compile a list of the good things evil did and the evil things good did, or should I do that, and you can do the evil things evil did and the good things evil did? I have the time to do either, and I don’t mind getting either part. Just let me know which part you want to do, and we can combine the lists into neat sections, and tag the teacher on the finished post. I’m thinking we could try to finish by Sunday?

        sophiesway replied 3 months ago

        I’ll do the first, I already started so I’m a few steps ahead, so I’ll do good thing evil did and evil things good did and post it on here, and you post it as well and then we’ll give it to fudge!

          sophiesway replied 3 months ago

          Good things Evil did:
          1. In the gingerbread house, the Witch spared Gretel, making her cook and clean instead of being eaten. Yes, some can argue that it was cruel to make a sister watch a brother die, but is it not Good to spare a life, to kill just one and not two?
          2. The step mother wanted the children gone so she and the father can live happily in love, nothing from the fathers old life to distract them. It was cruel to leave children helpless in the woods, but the mother wanted just for them to live happily in love, like the fairy tales taught her to, believing that the children where the villain in her story.
          3. The witch let two starving children into her house and fed them, giving them a safe space to sleep. Yes, it was a trap, but the Witch saw it as a way to give the children, and when you give, you get.
          Evil things Good did:
          1. When the father left his children to die in the woods, he gave up to things you should never give up, keeping them from living with love and protection, just because his new wife told him to.
          2. The children killed the witch who didn’t yet attack them, threaten yes, but attack? No. They disobeyed a rule of Good.
          3. Hansel ignored his sisters calls to not eat the house, ignoring it for greedy. He was hungry, but is that truly a reason to EAT SOMEONE’S HOUSE?
          Yes, you can say they where just protecting themselves, or that they wanted to obey, but really? There is always another side, a side where they believe what’s wrong is right, after all, using that what Rhian and Japheth are teaching us?

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

          Evil things Evil fulfilled

          -the witch invited CHILDREN into her house to kill them, and eat them. This is evil no matter what situation. The witch had also been killing several other children, and succeeded in both killing them and eating them, and even forced Gretel to gather the materials to cook her brother. That’s the worst kind of evil.

          -their stepmother led them into the forest to die. It wasn’t an accident. She wanted the kids to die because they were too “costly” (this story also takes place during a famine. still the reason she led the children into the forest was irrational.). If money was such a significant issue, she should have found a better solution. Killing off innocent children isn’t going to solve any of her issues.

          – the stepmother leads the kids into the forest… again. As irrational as leading children to die in a forest is, doing it twice is ludicrous.

          Good things Good fulfilled

          -the children help each other escape the witch. One of the most valuable lessons of good is that good helps others. No matter the situation.

          -the children take the witch’s gems to provide for their family. Though they are stealing from a dead witch who tried to eat them, this shows how they forgave their parents, who led them into the woods to die twice, and they knew it.

          i’m not sure if we should add anything else, just because it might take a while to compile this neatly. we can add more if you want though!

        sophiesway replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

        This is perfect! I’ll combine them and post them in a second.

          sophiesway replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

          Me and my partner @Claraofthenutcracker402 decided to write about Hansel and Gretel, a story where many mistakes and rules where broken, depending on what side your looking at. After all, every character has intentions, and depending what your mentality is they might seem Good, or Evil.
          So without further ado, let us tell you about dear Hansel and dear Gretel.
          Things Evil did that had Good intentions:
          1. In the Gingerbread house, the Witch spared Gretel, making her cook and clean instead of being eaten with her brother. Of course, most say that she was just going to eat her anyway, only wanting to eat one child at a time and saving the other for later. But what if the Witch only wanted to spare a child? Thinking that the girl would be better off being alive. But she spared a life, only killing one child and not two. Because after all, sparing or saving the child is Good.
          2. The step mother wanted to get ride of the children because they where to costly. (After all, this story was during a famine). But what if she wanted her and her new husband to have a new life? To be happy and in love as story books teach her to be? She thought the the children where the villains in her story.
          3. The Witch let to starving children into her candy sweet house. She wanted to GIVE to the children, and well, she expected to be given something in return.
          A lot of people think this is crazy, that evil had good intentions. But every story needs villains, and people chose them to play that role.
          Evil things Good did:
          1. The father left his two children to die in the woods, thinking it was best. But it is never best to leave children. Some people will say that he was just doing best for his new wife, but that is never an excuse to leave a child behind.
          2. The children broke a rule of Good by burning a witch who never attacked them. You could say they where defending themselves, but they still broke a rule of Good, a rule that they there trained to follow.
          3. Hansel ignored his sisters calls to run away from the house, but Hansel greedily ate the house with no regrets. Hansel was to greedy to think of the consequences that would come, one that he would pay moments later.
          Everyone thinks that Good can only do Good, that they could never make an Evil mistake. But even the most purest hearts can make mistakes, no matter how Evil they are.
          Evil things Evil fulfilled:
          1. The Witch invited CHILDREN to her house to EAT THEM. Where lucky Hansel and Gretel did what they did then when it happen, because killing and eating children is Evil in every way. The Witch even made Gretel gather ingredients and help cook her beloved brother.
          2. Their stepmother told the father to lead them into the forest to die. This was not an accident. She thought the children where to costly. If money was such an issue they should have found a better solution. Killing of innocent children is never an excuse.
          Good things Good did:
          1. The children helped each other escape the Witch. One of the most valuable lessons of Good is that they help others. No matter what.
          2. A part that is often forgotten is that the children **** the witch’s gems to provide for their family. Tough they are stealing from the dead witch who tried to eat them, they forgave their parents who did so much to hurt them.
          These last two reasons where the ones we know well, but the other two are so out there we can’t quite grasp it. Thank you for reading and we do hope this gives us high ranks! Sincerely,
          SophiesWay and Claraofthenutcracker.

        sophiesway replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

        Tell if this is good!

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

          It’s looking really good! I can do a few grammar corrections, and we should be good to go! (Side note- instead of ‘dear Hansel and dear gretel , could we do the beloved tale of Hansel and gretel?)

        sophiesway replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

        Yup, English is not my first language so I’m a little rocky, so go ahead and fix it up then post it on fudges class!

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

          Okay. Anything we should also translate it to then? I can do French and Cantonese, but that’s basically it.

        sophiesway replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

        Translate’s function is to translate word for word, not whole paragraphs (I learnt the hard way.) I speak French and Spanish, and it’s pretty cool to learn new languages. But I think we can stick to English.

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

          Okay. I also speak French and Cantonese (because my mum made me do that school for like 10 years) so I was wondering if it would be helpful. Translate is a dangerous place to get correct paragraphs…

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

          Me and my partner @Claraofthenutcracker402 decided to write about Hansel and Gretel, a story where many mistakes and rules were broken, depending on what side you’re looking at. After all, every character has intentions, and depending on what your mentality is, they might seem Good, or Evil.
          So without further ado, let us tell you about the beloved tale of Hansel and Gretel.
          Things Evil did that had Good intentions:

          1. In the Gingerbread house, the Witch spared Gretel, making her cook and clean instead of being eaten with her brother. Of course, most say that she was just going to eat her anyway, only wanting to eat one child at a time and saving the other for later. But what if the Witch only wanted to spare a child? Thinking that the girl would be better off being alive. But she spared a life, only killing one child and not two. Because after all, sparing or saving the child is Good.

          2. The stepmother wanted to get rid of the children because they were to costly. (After all, this story was during a famine). But what if she wanted her and her new husband to have a new life? To be happy and in love as storybooks teach her to be? She thought the children were the villains in her story.

          3. The Witch let to starving children into her candy-sweet house. She wanted to GIVE to the children, and well, she expected to be given something in return.
          A lot of people think this is crazy, that evil had good intentions. But every story needs villains, and people chose them to play that role.

          Evil things Good did:
          1. The father left his two children to die in the woods, thinking it was best. But it is never best to leave children. Some people will say that he was just doing best for his new wife, but that is never an excuse to leave a child behind.

          2. The children broke a rule of Good by burning a witch who never attacked them. You could say they were defending themselves, but they still broke a rule of Good, a rule that they there trained to follow.

          3. Hansel ignored his sisters calls to run away from the house, but Hansel greedily ate the house with no regrets. Hansel was too greedy to think of the consequences that would come, one that he would pay moments later.
          Everyone thinks that Good can only do Good, that they could never make an Evil mistake. But even the purest hearts can make mistakes, no matter how Good they are.

          Evil things Evil fulfilled
          1. The Witch invited CHILDREN to her house to EAT THEM. this is why Hansel and Gretel killed the witch when near the end, because killing and eating children is Evil in every way. The Witch even made Gretel gather ingredients and help cook her beloved brother.
          2. Their stepmother told the father to lead them into the forest to die. This was not an accident. She thought the children were too costly. If money was such an issue they should have found a better solution. The killing of innocent children is never an excuse.

          Good things Good did:
          1. The children helped each other escape the Witch. One of the most valuable lessons of Good is that they help others. No matter what.

          2. A part that is often forgotten is that the children took the witch’s gems to provide for their family. Though they are stealing from the dead witch who tried to eat them, they forgave their parents who did so much to hurt them.
          These last two reasons where the ones we know well, but the other two are so out there we can’t quite grasp it. Thank you for reading and we do hope this gives us high ranks! Sincerely,
          @SophiesWay & @Claraofthenutcracker.

          is this good? we just need to post it and tag royalfudge.

          claraofnutcracker402 replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

          i just need to correct my @.

        sophiesway replied 2 months, 4 weeks ago

        Perfect! Go ahead.

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