Honestly this series has taught me so much about true love. It also makes me want to have a cute boyfriend like Tedros. LOL
I think Soman’s portrayal of love is what drives SGE – the love between friends, the love between soulmates and the love between enemies, if that makes sense? Like the balance between good and evil and how it often has grey areas and there’s a balance between enemies that keep them fighting
Question. Are Willam and Bogden gay and in love? Can someone please answer?
It’s heavily hinted at – I was just skimming through my copy and can’t find the exact conversation, so anyone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong – but Soman did include a lot of queer representation without directly and explicitely stating stuff about their sexualties, or at least not that I remember, but it’s universally accepted that they are, I think
Yes!! I think they ARE dating, but they just don’t talk about it a lot, as of both being gay, I’m not so sure, but they’re not straight.
Yes, though it’s never explicitly stated, it’s heavily implied that they are dating, because other characters keep talking about them being in love and stuff like that
Yes, Sophie says several times that they are in love, and they talk about the fact that neither Tristen nor William like girls.
I just finished OTK and I am so sad. I found it to have a great ending, with Agatha and Tedros being married and Sophie and Hort dating. This book has taught me so much. I still remember that first book when everyone was so new to the school. I just love this series and I hate that I’m done with it. 🙁
Omg just finished the 5 book. I loved it!!!!!!!!!!
I loved book 5 when I finished it too. Rhian being evil was SUCH a shocker! Why does Sophie keep falling in love with evil people? I feel so bad for her! 😢
I mean, Sophie IS evil… she can’t help it. Good with good, evil with evil
Maybe am I the only one who thinks that, but in my opinion Rhian isn’t evil
book 5 was one of my favorite. I liked the way it ended on a cliff hanger
Honestly I don’t think they should do open casting. Random people may try to get the part and I think Netflix will do a great job picking correct and notable actors and actresses for the parts. I know everyone would like to audition but let the professionals do it here. 😑
Yeah I made that point awhile ago. I totally agree with you. People are saying stuff about how the Harry Potter cast, and yes that is true, but they were looking for specific looks! I think it would be a dream to be cast, but I highly doubt it
What about good kids who don’t get a chance huh? A lot of kids are being doubted when they can do great things! Kids are barged with all this “You can’t do this” stuff just because of their age! It is totally unfair that we can’t help or do stuff just because we are young. If kids are doubted, they doubt themselves. A lot of times its easier to…[Read more]
sry typo *We could do this movie better then people who havent read the books!*
Exactly! I think that no 21 year old can really play the role of a middle schooler. Also, just because the actors are famous, doesn’t mean they’ll do a better job than other kids who actually like the series.
@colinthepurple Even if the do Open Casting, that would take forever and plus with the pandemic happening right now, that would not be possible. This movie isn’t your middle school play that everyone gets a part in. It is a Netflix movie. And I know you say every professional started as a kid, but again, this isn’t a movie for people to be trying…[Read more]
Um… Just because people have been found already doesn’t mean that there are people who haven’t done movies that are professional. The best actors and actresses might not have been found. If there’s open casting there can be better actors, and maybe even better people.
I have to disagree. to be honest, the people that are usually on Netflix originals (like Noah scented mayo) are overused and I always like when there is new talent
YOU DONT NEED TO BE FAMOUS TO BE PROFESSIONAL
LIKE DOCTORS. THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY PROFESSIONAL BUT ARNT FAMOUS
ALSO, ANYONE CAN ACT AND SING PROFESSIONALLY WITHOUT BEING FAMOUS
@princesstatuml One movie could start a change. So tell me, is it wrong to stand your ground?
And as you can see now, the world needs to change. We need to stop listening to the rich Bureaucrats that command the world and don’t listen to other people!
Also, how old are you? Because if you are a kid you would be saying that your age is not capable.
@colinthepurple Just chill okay, you know they aren’t going to do open casting, so just don’t keep blowing up the Fantasy Casting with your petitions. Also I am in middle school, and I do believe kids can do anything, but really just let the professionals make it the best possible movie.
How do you know we can’t make the best possible movie? Because the actors probably never read the books!
I think he means that fans will also be able to have that deep understanding an put on a good performance
the actors most likely won’t have time to read the book usually they only read half or none
My sister read the whole book while complaining about life in 2 days. I don’t think it’s that hard. Or you can just do the audiobook.
Now who says that the actors will listen and read the books? For school assignments with books, you don’t like them as much because you are forced to read a book. OPEN CASTING!!!!
@evilkid most actors do not end up reading the books for the movies they are in. they aren’t forced to
@bellarontiris i agree with u. they are actors and they go through special training to be able to understand the characters they play. they dont have to read the books either.
So your saying a rich grown up person who hasnt read the books is better than a kid who fits the role, has done 15 plays, sings, and plays about a dozen instruments, and isnt famous but can proffesionally act?
the actors will not be forced to read the books. they most likely won’t because they dont have connections to the story. especially if they are established, this is just another job. of course, the actor will make the character their own. but if they didnt read the books, it could be different from what we envision
Just finished the third book and I’m going to start book four soon. I loved this book. I can’t believe Sophie is the dean of Evil! Ugh I hated Rafal. I’m so happy for Agatha and Tedros to be king and queen!
Yes TAGATHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The best ship in the series!!!!!!
Boooo tagatha+Hophie=absolutely the worst ships ever made
I totally agree. Tagatha isn’t the best in my opinion. Despite the challenges they face in the books
in my opinion, Tagatha is the worst ship, because it’s too cliché and also because I ABSOLUTELY HATE TEDROS!!! In my eyes, the best ships are:
And that’s it!! I don’t want Sophie to end up with Hort, it would be too predictable!!
Thank you so much for saying that!! I definitely agree, and I found RAFAL as the best match for Sophie. When that didn’t work out, Rhian was also a good option. But Hort? No, just no-
Also, I thought I was the only one who hated Tagatha!!!!!!!! But I’m not! 🙂
I already know Hophie happens, and because of that, I already know that I won’t enjoy the book all too much because it ruins EVERY. SINGLE. OTHER. THING. THAT. HAS. HAPPENED. SO. FAR. I already know that the good guys will win, leading us to yet another, cliche ending.
@sophieforever33, yeahhh I TOTALLY AGREE!! I’m also aware that Hophie happens, because I managed to get spoiled a few things, including Hophie. AND I’M SO DISGUSTED!!!!! BECAUSE, LIKE MOST BOOKS, WE ARE AGAIN ENTITLED TO AN END WHICH IS A REAL F U C K I N G CLICHE? WHERE THE ” EVIL” IS OVERCOME, AND ALL THIS S H I…[Read more]
Just adding my opinion here:
Amelya and SophieForever33,
First things first, I love Sophie and Rafal and they were cute together and Sophie is amazing, as usual.
(BTW Amelya, please don’t swear. There are users as young as seven on this site.)
Second, would it be an amazing book series if everyone died at the end? I mean like really- would you…[Read more]
Yeah ikr. I expected Soman to be dif, but I guess all writers are the same.
@cutenesslily, yeah you’re right about swearing, I’m sorry, but I was just so disgusted!! And, I don’t want everyone to die at the end, but I thought that since it was Soman, we could expect everything, and I’m just very disappointed, that he doesn’t get out of the cliche, I mean why not give all the characters a happy ending? Both Good and Evil.…[Read more]
this has to be my favorite.. well, so far. I don’t own book 5, and i am patently (Well, kinda) waiting for it. (I already read the preview too)
@amelya exactly! You said it perfectly. We aren’t sayinG we want everyone dead, were saying the complete opposite. We want the villains to live!!! It’s so unfair, the good guys get love, and the bad guys die, when all they want is love too. From the way earlier books in the series were written, I expected maybe rhian to come back to life and be…[Read more]
(Oh ok, I misunderstood, sorry.) I agree actually
HAVE THE DANG VILLIANS GET LOVE SOMAN-
And you know, the thing is, I really did think that soman would have a unique ending… but I guess not.
Tagatha is the good, sweet couple and they have been through so much, but despite being an ever myself, I gotta feel sorry for Rophie!!! Best. Ship. Ever!!!!
Tedros and Agatha aren’t happy together.
@lunalovegoodfan, Hophie and Tagatha are the most predictable couples and therefore, the most annoying because predictable couples are always the most annoying! Plus their names of ships are absolutely awful!!!!
I’m not trying to argue, I was just stating my thoughts, you have yours and I have mine